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CMCINTYRE3600
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posted March 06, 2003 03:52 PM
  
As I've said before, I am in almost the exact same situation, with almost the exact same choices. I'm a GA fan too, and Action 1 and GA GL 2 are both on the top of my list. Also, I too won Superman Archvies vol 1,2, and 3 on E-bay. I actually finished vol 2 last night. I didn't know there was continuity between the two. I may have get Action 1 next, though I have been dying for GA GL 2.
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posted March 07, 2003 01:35 AM
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So unless anyone has a REALLY convincing argument for one of the others, I may go ahead and put my order for Action in with Amazon tonight or early tomorrow.-Steve
Well, whatever you do, make sure you use a coupon. Hey, ten bucks is ten bucks.
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posted March 07, 2003 01:57 AM
For what it's worth, Action vol.1 was the one of the three you're deciding among that I enjoyed reading the most.
It's the earliest, crudest Superman, and it has a life and vigor that disappears pretty quickly. I'd get that.IP: Logged |
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posted March 07, 2003 10:07 AM
Action Comics vol.1 has been purchased! However, Amazon was selling it for the $50 price. :P Oh well, Amazon's loss was Mile High's gain! It just cost me $3 more for shipping than if Amazon had it's regular sale price.-Steve ------------------
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posted March 07, 2003 11:53 AM
Enjoy, Steve! I'm currently reading the Superman Archives in order. (Well, not issue-by-issue, but Archive-by-Archive. So I read Action #1, Superman #1, and Action #2. Next I'll probably do Superman #2-4, Action #3, and Superman #5.) I, too, enjoyed Action #1. Superman battles against social injustice even more than he battles super-villains, really. I recall one story -- I believe it was in Action #1, but it could've been Superman #1, I can't check right now -- that I got a kick out of wherein Superman decides that a slum in Metropolis has got to go. I won't spoil it for you except to say I liked it. (I'm not saying it's plausible at all, just that I liked it.  ).IP: Logged |
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posted March 07, 2003 06:53 PM
All-Star Comics # 5 was fine. It does feature a Brain Wave story I think.Action Comics # 1 left me disappointed when I read it and I never bought it. (Yeah for libraries). But Golden Age Green Lantern was terrific. The uneven art was no distraction to stories featuring a social crusader. The early GL stories also used his powers in a more interesting way IMO than many much later stories I have seen. I especially loved reading Doiby Dickles' dialogue to my then-8 year old daughter. She giggled quite a bit. Fun was had by all. If you DO buy GA GL # 2 after all, read it out loud. It's a hoot. IP: Logged |
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posted March 07, 2003 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by srca1941:
Action Comics vol.1 has been purchased! However, Amazon was selling it for the $50 price. :P Oh well, Amazon's loss was Mile High's gain! It just cost me $3 more for shipping than if Amazon had it's regular sale price.-Steve
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posted March 08, 2003 06:00 AM
Action 1 is missing issue 2-7 which were later reprinted in issues of Superman (which means they were Archived earlier in Superman Archives).At someone's request, I created instructions for reading these stories in the proper order. I think these instructions would drive most people crazy, but someone who reads several Archives at once is already jumping around and probably wouldn't go nuts. Anyway, here it is. 1. Read Action 1 in Action Archive 1. Look at the cover to Action 2.
2. Go to Superman 1. Read the second story in Superman 1 (page 27-39). Skip the ad at the end.
3. Go back to Action to look at the cover of Action 3.
4. Go back to Superman and read the story beginning on page 43. Skip the filler at the end.
5. Go back to Action to look at the cover of Action 4.
6. Go back to Superman and read the story beginning on page 56. Skip the filler at the end.
7. Action: cover 5
8. Superman: story on 168. You guessed it, skip the filler.
9. Action: cover 6.
10. Superman: story on 180. Skip filler.
11. Finish the Action Archive. At some point, you might want to go back and read the text descriptions of Action 2-6.
12. Wait until your memory fades a little.
13. Read the entire contents of Superman Archive 1.
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posted March 08, 2003 06:01 AM
missing 2-6, not 2-7. Sorry.IP: Logged |
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posted March 08, 2003 06:13 AM
As far as I'mm concerened, the only other reason to jump around is to get the Luthor stories in order.I don't want to exaggerate, but there is some continuity. When I first read these stories, there were references to stories that hadn't been Archived yet. I went crazy trying to figure out how I had forgotten these stories. I'd have to re-read these stories to figure out the proper order. This is a long-term goal of mine, but I don't have the time now. I THINK that this can be done without jumping between volumes. Just make sure that you read each volume of Action before any volume of Superman that overlaps with it. I don't want to ruin anyone's enjoyment, so I want to emphasize that this is what I THINK will work; this order is unverified. Chris and Steve, enjoy! IP: Logged |
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posted March 08, 2003 07:38 PM
OK, here's the way to read the archived Superman stories in order (I went ahead and listed the first 100 books). I'm also including the World's Fair/World's Finest stories, since we can assume Superman will follow in Batman's footsteps. I'm not even going to attempt to work out how the newspaper strip would fit in!(A)=Action Comics Archives
(S)=Superman Archives
(W)=Superman in World's Finest Comics Archives 001)Action Comics #1 (6/38) (A1) or (S1) *Superman #1 **On the stands in May 1938 according to Jerry Siegel in an interview on the Fred Allen Show.
002)Action Comics #2 (7/38) (A1-cover) (S1) *Superman #1
003)Action Comics #3 (8/38) (A1-cover) (S1) *Superman #1
004)Action Comics #4 (9/38) (A1-cover) (S1) *Superman #1
005)Action Comics #5 (10/38) (A1-cover) (S1) *Superman #3
006)Action Comics #6 (11/38) (A1-cover) (S1) *Superman #3
007)Action Comics #7 (12/38) (A1)
008)Action Comics #8 (1/39) (A1)
009)Action Comics #9 (2/39) (A1)
010)Action Comics #10 (3/39) (A1)
011)Action Comics #11 (4/39) (A1)
012) World’s Fair Comics 1939 (Released April 30, 1939) (W1)
013) Action Comics #12 (5/39) (A1) *This would be in the same month as World’s Fair, but according to an ad All-Star #3, Action came out toward the end of the month.
014) Superman #1 (Summer 39) (S1) *According to Keltner’s index, this came out about three weeks after World’s Fair which would place it on the stands in mid-May with the books cover dated June.
015) Action Comics #13 (6/39) (A1)
016)Action Comics #14 (7/39) (A1)
017)Action Comics #15 (8/39) (A1)
018) Superman #2 (Fall 39) (S1) *On sale with September cover dated books(?)
019) Action Comics #16 (9/39) (A1)
020)Action Comics #17 (10/39) (A1)
021)Action Comics #18 (11/39) (A1)
022) Superman #3 (Winter 39) (S1) *On sale with December cover dated books(?)
023) Action Comics #19 (12/39) (A1)
024)Action Comics #20 (1/40) (A1)
025)Action Comics #21 (2/40) (A2)
026) Superman #4 (Spring 40) (S1) *On sale with March cover dated books(?)
027) Action Comics #22 (3/40) (A2)
028) World’s Fair Comics 1940 (W1) *Issued May 11, 1940.
029) Action Comics #23 (4/40) (A2)
030)Action Comics #24 (5/40) (A2)
031) Superman #5 (Summer 40) (S2) *On sale with June cover dated books(?)
032) Action Comics #25 (6/40) (A2)
033)Action Comics #26 (7/40) (A2)
034)Action Comics #27 (8/40) (A2)
035)Superman #6 (9-10/40) (S2)
036)Action Comics #28 (9/40) (A2)
037)Action Comics #29 (10/40) (A2)
038)Superman #7 (11-12/40) (S2)
039)Action Comics #30 (11/40) (A2)
040)Action Comics #31 (12/40) (A2)
041)Superman #8 (1-2/41) (S2)
042)Action Comics #32 (1/41) (A2)
043)Action Comics #33 (2/41) (A2)
044)Superman #9 (3-4/41) (S3)
045)World’s Best Comics #1 (Spring 41) (W1) *According to an ad I have in More Fun Comics #68, issue 2 was on sale May 16 with June cover dated books. Logic dictates that issue 1 was three months earlier, and released about the middle of the month.
046)Action Comics #34 (3/41) (A2)
047)Action Comics #35 (4/41) (A2)
048)Superman #10 (5-6/41) (S3)
049)Action Comics #36 (5/41) (A2)
050)World’s Finest Comics #2 (Summer 41) (W1) *On sale with June cover dated books.
051)Action Comics #37 (6/41) (A3)
052)Superman #11 (7-8/41) (S3)
053)Action Comics #38 (7/41) (A3)
054)Action Comics #39 (8/41) (A3)
055)Superman #12 (9-10/41) (S3)
056)World’s Finest Comics #3 (Fall 41) (W1) *On sale with September cover dated books(?)
057)Action Comics #40 (9/41) (A3)
058)Action Comics #41 (10/41) (A3)
059)Superman #13 (11-12/41) (S4)
060)Action Comics #42 (11/41) (A3)
061)World’s Finest Comics #4 (Winter 41) (W1) *On sale with December cover dated books(?)
062)Action Comics #43 (12/41) (A3)
063)Superman #14 (1-2/42) (S4)
064)Action Comics #44 (1/42) (A3)
065)Action Comics #45 (2/42) (A3)
066)Superman #15 (3-4/42) (S4)
067)World’s Finest Comics #5 (Spring 42) (W1) *On sale with March cover dated books(?)
068)Action Comics #46 (3/42) (A3)
069)Action Comics #47 (4/42) (A3)
070)Superman #16 (5-6/42) (S4)
071)Action Comics #48 (5/42) (A3)
072)World’s Finest Comics #6 (Summer 42) (W1) *On sale with June cover dated books(?)
073)Action Comics #49 (6/42) (A3)
074)Superman #17 (7-8/42) (S5)
075)Action Comics #50 (7/42) (A3)
076)Action Comics #51 (8/42) (A3)
077)Superman #18 (9-10/42) (S5)
078)World’s Finest Comics #7 (Fall 42) (W1) *On sale with September cover dated books(?)
079)Action Comics #52 (9/42) (A3)
080)Action Comics #53 (10/42) (A4)
081)Superman #19 (11-12/42) (S5)
082)Action Comics #54 (11/42) (A4)
083)World’s Finest Comics #8 (Winter 42) (W1) *On sale with December cover dated books(?)
084)Action Comics #55 (12/42) (A4)
085)Superman #20 (1-2/43) (S5)
086)Action Comics #56 (1/43) (A4)
087)Action Comics #57 (2/43) (A4)
088)Superman #21 (3-4/43) (S6)
089)World’s Finest Comics #9 (Spring 43) (W1) *On sale with March cover dated books(?)
090)Action Comics #58 (3/43) (A4)
091)Action Comics #59 (4/43) (A4)
092)Superman #22 (5-6/43) (S6)
093)Action Comics #60 (5/43) (A4)
094)World’s Finest Comics #10 (Summer 43) (W1) *On sale with June cover dated books(?)
095)Action Comics #61 (6/43) (A4)
096)Superman #23 (7-8/43) (S6)
097)Action Comics #62 (7/43) (A4)
098)Action Comics #63 (8/43) (A4)
099)Superman #24 (9-10/43) (S6)
100)World’s Finest Comics #11 (Fall 43) (W1) *On sale with September cover dated books(?) -Steve ------------------
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posted March 09, 2003 12:52 AM
Pretty good list. Here's some additional data and a slight reordering.NYWF 1939 (#1) would have come out after Action #13 because of a two month lag between cover dates and onsale dates. Also Superman #1 contains an ad for Action #14 with an on sale date of June 2, 1939. It's possible NYWF #1 predates Act #13 by a few days but certainly not #12. Here is a somewhat corrected ordering. 11) Action #11
12) Action #12
13) Action #13
14) NYWF #1 (on sale 4/30/39)
15) Superman #1 (on sale 5/18/39 - not sure where but I know I have seen this exact date somewhere)
16) Action #14 (on sale 6/2/39) From there push each issue of Superman back one month. Supes #2 between Act 16 & 17
Supes #3 between Act 19 & 20
Supes #4 between Act 22 & 23 (onsale 2/15/40 based on ad in Action #22) This is the real first appearance of Luthor since it predates Action #23, though Action #23 takes place chronologically first and is part 2 of a continued story. NYWF 1940 (#2) between Act #25 & #26 (5/11/40)
Supes #5 also was released around this time. I place NYWF first. House ads show it arrived slightly before Act #26. Mike - the Index Guy http://www.dcindexes.com
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posted March 09, 2003 03:27 PM
Thanks for the corrections! I noted my reasoning for many dates, but only have access to so many of the early house ads. As I noted, Action #1 was on the stands in May 1938 according to Siegel in his Fred Allen interview. The question is when did the change in shipping from 1 month, to 2 months prior to the cover date occur? I should have noticed it after I recently found out All-Star #3 arrived on stands Nov. 22, 1940 (according to a stamped date on one copy), and it's 2 page house ad shows January cover dated books.Also, I'm constructing another list for Batman. Batman #1 went on sale April 25, 1940 according to an ad in Detective Comics #39, and if #3 was on sale in November, then wouldn't #2 have been on sale in July with September cover dated books? All these dates are giving me a headache! -Steve ------------------
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posted March 09, 2003 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by srca1941:
Also, I'm constructing another list for Batman. Batman #1 went on sale April 25, 1940 according to an ad in Detective Comics #39, and if #3 was on sale in November, then wouldn't #2 have been on sale in July with September cover dated books? All these dates are giving me a headache!-Steve
One of my big projects right now is going through my various comics and noting exact onsale dates as listed in house ads. The project is nearly complete with only 1968-1975 left to cover. Obviously my Golden Age collection is less than complete. Here are some other early 1940 release dates that I have found. With Sept/40 cover dates
Superman #6 - onsale 7/10/40
Batman #2 - onsale 7/20/40 With Dec/40 cover dates
Batman #3 - onsale 10/20/40 With Mar/41 cover dates
Batman #4 - onsale 1/13/41 With Apr/41 cover dates
All-Star #4 - onsale 2/7/41 With May/41 cover dates
Superman #10 - onsale 3/5/41
All-American #26 - onsale 3/18/41
Action #36 - onsale 3/21/41 With June/41 cover dates
All-Star #5 - onsale 4/25/41 With July/41 cover dates
World's Finest #2 - onsale 5/16/41
All-Flash #1 - onsale 5/25/41 With Sep/41 cover dates
Superman #12 - onsale 7/2/41 With Oct/41 cover dates
Star Spangled #1 - onsale 8/6/41
All-Star #7 - onsale 8/25/41 With Dec/41 cover dates
Batman #8 - onsale 10/10/41
All-Star #8 - onsale 10/25/41 Mike - the Index Guy http://www.dcindexes.com IP: Logged |
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posted March 10, 2003 09:47 AM
OK, I've finished Batman's first 100 books:(B)=Batman Archives
(D)=Dark Knight Archives
(W)=Batman in World's Finest Comics Archives 001)Detective Comics #27 (5/39) (B1) *This would have been on the stands in March.
002)Detective Comics #28 (6/39) (B1)
003)Detective Comics #29 (7/39) (B1)
004)Detective Comics #30 (8/39) (B1)
005)Detective Comics #31 (9/39) (B1)
006)Detective Comics #32 (10/39) (B1)
007)Detective Comics #33 (11/39) (B1)
008)Detective Comics #34 (12/39) (B1)
009)Detective Comics #35 (1/40) (B1)
010)Detective Comics #36 (2/40) (B1)
011)Detective Comics #37 (3/40) (B1)
012)Detective Comics #38 (4/40) (B1)
013)Detective Comics #39 (5/40) (B1)
014)Detective Comics #40 (6/40) *Issued the same month as World’s Fair, but came out around the 5th of each month according to an ad in All-Star #3.
015)Batman #1 (Spring 40) (D1) *Announced as being on sale April 25, 1940 (with June cover dated books).
016)Detective Comics #41 (7/40) (B1)
017)World’s Fair Comics 1940 (W1) *Issued May 11, 1940.
018)Detective Comics #42 (8/40) (B1)
019)Detective Comics #43 (9/40) (B1)
020)Batman #2 (Summer 40) (D1) *7/20/40; On sale with September cover dated books.
021)Detective Comics #44 (10/40) (B1)
022)Detective Comics #45 (11/40) (B1)
023)Detective Comics #46 (12/40) (B1)
024)Batman #3 (Fall 40) (D1) *10/20/40; On sale with December cover dated books.
025)Detective Comics #47 (1/41) (B1)
026)Detective Comics #48 (2/41) (B1)
027)Detective Comics #49 (3/41) (B1)
028)Batman #4 (Winter 40) (D1) *1/13/41; On sale with March cover dated books.
029)World’s Best Comics #1 (Spring 41) (W1) *According to an ad I have in More Fun Comics #68, issue 2 was on sale May 16 with June cover dated books. Logic dictates that issue 1 was three months earlier, and released about the middle of the month.
030)Detective Comics #50 (4/41) (B1)
031)Detective Comics #51 (5/41) (B2)
032)Detective Comics #52 (6/41) (B2)
033)Batman #5 (Spring 41) (D2) *On sale with June cover dated books(?)
034)World’s Finest Comics #2 (Summer 41) (W1) *On sale with June cover dated books
035)Detective Comics #53 (7/41) (B2)
036)Detective Comics #54 (8/41) (B2)
037)Batman #6 (8-9/41) (D2)
038)Detective Comics #55 (9/41) (B2)
039)World’s Finest Comics #3 (Fall 41) (W1) *On sale with September cover dated books(?)
040)Detective Comics #56 (10/41) (B2)
041)Batman #7 (10-11/41) (D2)
042)Detective Comics #57 (11/41) (B2)
043)Detective Comics #58 (12/41) (B2)
044)Batman #8 (12-1/41) (D2)
045)World’s Finest Comics #4 (Winter 41) (W1) *On sale with December cover dated books(?)
046)Detective Comics #59 (1/42) (B2)
047)Detective Comics #60 (2/42) (B2)
048)Batman #9 (2-3/42) (D3)
049)Detective Comics #61 (3/42) (B2)
050)World’s Finest Comics #5 (Spring 42) (W1) *On sale with March cover dated books(?)
051)Detective Comics #62 (4/42) (B2)
052)Batman #10 (4-5/42) (D3)
053)Detective Comics #63 (5/42) (B2)
054)Detective Comics #64 (6/42) (B2)
055)Batman #11 (6-7/42) (D3)
056) World’s Finest Comics #6 (Summer 42) (W1) *On sale with June cover dated books(?)
057)Detective Comics #65 (7/42) (B2)
058)Detective Comics #66 (8/42) (B2)
059)Batman #12 (8-9/42) (D3)
060)Detective Comics #67 (9/42) (B2)
061)World’s Finest Comics #7 (Fall 42) (W1) *On sale with September cover dated books(?)
062)Detective Comics #68 (10/42) (B2)
063)Batman #13 (10-11/42) (D4)
064)Detective Comics #69 (11/42) (B2)
065)Detective Comics #70 (12/42) (B2)
066)Batman #14 (12-1/42) (D4)
067)World’s Finest Comics #8 (Winter 42) (W1) *On sale with December cover dated books(?)
068)Detective Comics #71 (1/43) (B3)
069)Detective Comics #72 (2/43) (B3)
070)Batman #15 (2-3/43) (D4)
071)Detective Comics #73 (3/43) (B3)
072) World’s Finest Comics #9 (Spring 43) (W1) *On sale with March cover dated books(?)
073)Detective Comics #74 (4/43) (B3)
074)Batman #16 (4-5/43) (D4)
075)Detective Comics #75 (5/43) (B3)
076)Detective Comics #76 (6/43) (B3)
077)Batman #17 (6-7/43) (D5)
078) World’s Finest Comics #10 (Summer 43) (W1) *On sale with June cover dated books(?)
079)Detective Comics #77 (7/43) (B3)
080)Detective Comics #78 (8/43) (B3)
081)Batman #18 (8-9/43) (D5)
082)Detective Comics #79 (9/43) (B3)
083)World’s Finest Comics #11 (Fall 43) (W1) *On sale with September cover dated books(?)
084)Detective Comics #80 (10/43) (B3)
085)Batman #19 (10-11/43) (D5)
086)Detective Comics #81 (11/43) (B3)
087)Detective Comics #82 (12/43) (B3)
088)Batman #20 (12-1/43) (D5)
089)World’s Finest Comics #12 (Winter 43) (W1) *On sale with December cover dated books(?)
090)Detective Comics #83 (1/44) (B3)
091)Detective Comics #84 (2/44) (B3)
092)Batman #21 (2-3/44) (D6)
093)Detective Comics #85 (3/44) (B3)
094)World’s Finest Comics #13 (Spring 44) (W1) *On sale with March cover dated books(?)
095)Detective Comics #86 (4/44) (B3)
096)Batman #22 (4-5/44) (D6)
097)Detective Comics #87 (5/44) (B4)
098)Detective Comics #88 (6/44) (B4)
099)Batman #23 (6-7/44) (D6)
100)World’s Finest Comics #14 (Summer 44) (W1) *On sale with June cover dated books(?) -Steve ------------------
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